Revisited: Steve Albini Talks with Jerry Casale (Devo) for the Talkhouse Podcast

The music legends talk the early years of Devo, Brian Eno’s proclivity for ménage à trois, and the differences between poker and making records.
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This week on the show, we revisit a fan-favorite episode: legendary producer and musician Steve Albini, and the game-changing Devo‘s Jerry Casale. Enjoy!


The Talkhouse Podcast recently headed out to the fantastic Desert Daze festival at Moreno Beach at Lake Perris in Southern California. When we weren’t catching sets by Tame Impala, King Gizzard, and My Bloody Valentine, we recorded a trio of great talks; this week, we present the first.

When I saw that both Steve Albini and Devo’s Jerry Casale were going to be at Desert Daze giving talks, I knew we had to pair these two icons of alternative music. They’re big fans of each other’s work, and halfway through their conversation, Steve said, “This is the sort of stuff no one ever talks about. These are the questions I’ve had for 30 years.”

Their fascinating talk takes in the beginning years of Devo’s existence; their complex relationship with Neil Young; Brian Eno’s proclivity for ménage à trois; the differences between poker and making records; and how the name Devo became a category alongside jocks, squares and nerds.

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—Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer @eliaeinhorn

This episode was recorded by Keenan Kush at Desert Daze, and by Mark Yoshizumi at Hook & Fade Studios in Brooklyn. It was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi.

The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song was composed and performed by The Range.

Big thanks to Desert Daze for hosting the Talkhouse Podcast.

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