515. – Geoff Rickly

Geoff Rickly is the singer of the band Thursday. He finally kicked heroin thanks to an intense spiritual ceremony and wrote a book that comes out soon. We chat about both iodine and mercury poisoning, Chris’ new newsletter for GQ, Threads is to pickleball as Twitter is to tennis, emotional hardcore music, backstage “punishers,” the lore of New Jersey, he gets paid more to DJ at Emo Nite than to play an actual show, emo used to be derogatory, he details the entire process of taking Ibogaine to counter his drug addiction, much like Pinterest, the subconscious mind is mainly image-based, producing My Chemical Romance’s records, Geoff gives us a better distillation of what a Rick Rubin type actually “does” better than Rick ever has, songs don’t get you laid—albums do, Leor Cohen and L.A. Reid stories, we force him to name a couple celebrities who like Thursday, and a juicy sync talk.

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